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LIBRARY MINYAN GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING
November 9, 2003
MINUTES
The meeting began at 10:05 a.m. The following Minyan members
attended: John Antignas, Dale Bodenstein, Mark Bodenstein, Bob
Braun, Mayer Brenner, Terry Cohan-Link, Herschel Elkins, Miriam
Elkins, Shawn Fields-Meyer, Jonathan Friedman, Val Goldstein,
Rachel Green, Daniel Greyber, Janet Halbert, Sam Jason, Susan
Laemmle, Morlie Levin, Norm Levin, Bob Malina, Fran Malina,
Mitch Miller, Paul Miller, Henry Morgan, Joe Nimoy, Marizon
Nimoy, Alan Paul, Kathryn Paul, Barry Rosenblatt, Kathy
Rosenblatt, Heather Rothman, Diane Scherschow, Bill Seligman,
Steve Spronz, Carl Sunshine, Tova Sunshine, Allen Weinstock.
Norm Levin began the meeting by describing the agenda,
objectives, and procedures for the meeting. He indicated that
the five pending issues addressed by the Ritual Committee (the
first item on the agenda) would be discussed one at a time, with
Bob Braun first providing a quick summary of the respective
issue and overview of the committee’s deliberations on that
issue followed by general discussion.
Pending Issues Addressed by the Ritual Committee
Bob prefaced his summary of the pending issues by reviewing
the composition of the Ritual Committee (the gabbaim, Bob Braun,
Norm Levin, and other interested Minyan members at their
discretion). The committee meets regularly via e-mail, but only
sporadically in person, as needs arise. All committee e-mail
trails are open for the kahal to read and posted on the web
site.
The following briefly summarizes the background to each of
the pending issues, describes the Ritual Committee’s
deliberations and/or recommendation, and highlights main themes
or points made in the ensuing discussion. The votes and/or
outcomes of the discussion of the respective issues are noted in
the bottom bullet of each issue wherever applicable.
Prayer for U.S. soldiers
Background: The Ritual Committee was asked to
discuss adding a prayer for the welfare of American
soldiers. The Ritual Committee did some research and
identified a prayer from the Jewish Welfare Board (JWF)
that was deemed suitable for consideration. The Ritual
Committee modified the JWF prayer slightly to read as
follows: “We beseech you, Oh God, to shield and
protect our armed forces in the air, on sea and on land.
May it be Your will that the dominion of tyranny and
cruelty speedily be brought to an end and the kingdom of
righteousness be established on earth with liberty and
freedom for all mankind. Amen.”
Ritual Committee’s recommendation: The committee
recommended that this modified prayer be added to the
existing prayer for the country for as long as U.S.
military personnel are engaged in armed conflict.
General discussion: Most members were sympathetic
to the argument that U.S. service men and women deserve
our prayers. There was a wide range of views, however,
on how best to address this issue. Some participants
expressed concern that inserting the prayer into the
Shabbat liturgy would inject politics into our service.
Others, while sensitive to that possibility, felt that
careful wording could minimize that risk. Still others
were reluctant in general to add prayers to the existing
liturgy, with some suggesting that prayers for our
troops are best addressed on a private/personal level.
The operational implications should the Minyan opt to
include some version of the prayer were also discussed,
including where such a prayer would be placed in the
liturgy and where it would be physically inserted into
the prayer books. The pros and cons of going with a
prayer vs. a misheberach were also discussed.
Vote: A majority of the members present voted NOT
to ratify the Ritual Committee recommendation to include
a separate prayer for U.S. soldiers. Instead, a majority
of the members voted in favor of exploring the idea of
inserting some such expression or prayer into the
standard mesheberach. The matter was referred back to
the Ritual Committee to identify an appropriate
formulation.
Prayer for Chayalei Tzahal
Background: The Ritual Committee was asked to
address adding a prayer for the welfare of Israeli
soldiers.
Ritual Committee’s recommendation: Upon review of
the relevant prayers included in the siddur, the Ritual
Committee determined that the Prayer for the State of
Israel already includes an appropriate phrase and
recommended that no further modification or addition be
made. Instead, the Ritual Committee suggested that the
Kahal be reminded from time to time that the prayer does
encompass the safety and wellbeing of Israeli armed
forces and that this should be kept in mind while
praying.
General discussion: There was a strong consensus
behind the Ritual Committee’s recommendation to make no
further modification or addition to the liturgy and no
opposing point of view was expressed.
Outcome: The committee’s recommendation was
adopted.
Children on the bimah
Background: The Ritual Committee was asked to
review long-standing Minyan policy concerning children
on or around the bimah during services.
Ritual Committee’s recommendation: The Ritual
Committee strongly reaffirmed the Minyan’s desire to
welcome families and children and reiterated the
Minyan’s existing policy: a) Children who are not
leading a portion of the service should not, in general,
reside on the bimah; b) At no time should any child (or
any other person) sit on the shulchan, particularly in
the presence of a Sefer Torah; c) The Minyan does and
should continue to invite children to the bimah at
specific times, such as the removal and return of the
Torah and at Adon Olam; d) It is the responsibility of
parents to enforce this policy with respect to their
children, although gabbaim should provide gentle
reminders as necessary.
General discussion: Most people agreed with both
the committee’s reaffirmation of the Minyan’s desire to
continue to foster a “child-friendly” environment and
its reiteration of the Minyan’s existing policy. There
was general agreement in particular that children should
not be sitting on the schulchan in the presence of the
Sefer Torah, nor should they be playing at the foot of
the bimah or interfering with the schaliach tzibur.
Several people stressed that, while it is a shared
responsibility to create a sacred space for us all, it
is especially incumbent on the parents of small children
to help their children understand that the chapel is a
sacred space. Others, pointing to the “graying hair”
around the table, emphasized the need for maximum
tolerance.
Outcome: There was general agreement that the
Ritual Committee should remind the kahal of the Minyan’s
existing policy.
Videotaping in the Minyan
Background: The Ritual Committee reviewed the
pending issue of videotaping of simchot in the Minyan on
Shabbat and chagim, which arose when a member of the
Minyan asked if a family bar mitzvah could be recorded
by a “Shabbat-friendly” video recorder. Rabbi Rembaum
held as the Mara D’atra that such taping is halachically
permissible based on a T’shuva by the Rabbinical
Assembly drafted by Rabbi Elliot Dorf, and videotaping
has been done upstairs in the main shul for the past six
months. Rabbi Rembaum also stressed, however, that the
decision whether to allow such taping in the Minyan is
entirely a decision for the Minyan to make for itself
and there is no pressure from the shul one way or the
other. Mark Wolf strongly reiterated both of these
points, emphasizing that as far as the shul’s lay
leadership is concerned we should feel under no pressure
either regarding the issue itself or the time it might
take to reach a decision. After a brief exchange of
e-mail among Ritual Committee members, Bob felt that the
committee could not make a decision on this issue
without the involvement of the general membership, a
feeling Norm fully shared. Under severe time constraints
to make a decision on the particular simcha, however,
Norm and Bob decided to agree to a “one-time only”
taping of that particular event on the basis of the
explicit understanding that it would not constitute a
precedent. The decision also included the proviso that
no further taping would be allowed until the Minyan
membership as a whole had a chance to vote on this
issue. The issue was then returned to the Ritual
Committee for further deliberation.
Ritual Committee’s deliberations: At the Ritual
Committee meeting prior to the general Minyan meeting,
many issues were raised both for and against
videotaping. (For a more detailed account, see the
minutes from the Ritual Committee’s October 29, 2003
meeting.) These included the following:
Aesthetics: The presence of videotaping
could create a barrier to prayer, while leading to
unintended and undesirable results.
Personal halachic issues: Videotaping could be a
divisive issue because some Minyan members,
notwithstanding Rabbi Rembaum’s halachic ruling,
might feel compelled to separate themselves from
services being taped.
The “two kahal” dilemma: Some committee members
were concerned that if Minyan members separate
themselves from videotaped services but participate
at other times the goal of a unified community could
be undermined, particularly given the increasing
number of simchot scheduled in the Minyan. Others
felt that on days when a simcha is celebrated there
are already, in fact, two kahals and that this is
both natural and appropriate.
Family considerations: Some committee members
felt that the prime goal of the Minyan as a
welcoming community should be to accommodate the
desires of a family celebrating a simcha and that
placing the desires of the community above the
desires of individual members was equally divisive.
Others felt that the Minyan has already moved
considerably away from the model where a family
“fits into” the Minyan for a simcha rather than the
Minyan “servicing” the family and that a
continuation of this trend has potential long-term
implications for the nature of the Minyan itself.
Practical considerations: The operational
implications of how (or whether) to announce
videotaping and who/what events would be eligible
for taping were also discussed.
Ritual Committee’s recommendation: The committee
determined that the issues surrounding videotaping in
the Minyan required a full discussion and vote by the
entire kahal and recommended that the issues be
discussed at a general membership meeting, followed by
an e-mail discussion and mail-in vote prior to Chanukah.
General discussion: These issues served as the
point of departure for a lively discussion. In addition
to some of the same views expressed at the Ritual
Committee meeting summarized above, the discussion
included (but was not limited to) the following points,
arguments, and/or perspectives:
It is important not to lose sight of the impact
the process of these discussions can have on the
people involved. We need to put “people first,”
rather than “process first.”
The primary purpose of the shul on shabbat/Yom
Tov is to provide a sacred space for prayer.
An unobtrusive video camera is “low impact”
because only a very few seats can be captured on
tape and recorded.
No matter how unobtrusive, a video camera is not
“low-impact” because people need to avoid certain
spaces and otherwise alter their normal behavior,
which could have a profound impact on the character
of the Minyan over time.
It is essential to see the details of the
halachic ruling from the Rabbinic Assembly that
allowed videotaping.
It is not essential to see the details of the
halachic ruling because Rabbi Rembaum has already
made his ruling.
What is ok upstairs should/should not determine
what is ok downstairs.
This is a complicated issue and we should not
rush to judgement. Chanukah may be too short a
timeframe for a decision.
If videotaping is to take place, the kahal needs
to be informed because of non-secular privacy laws.
As part of the larger discussion with the entire
kahal it is essential that both “pro” and “con”
statements be prepared and presented.
If it is possible to post a still frame from the
videotape of the simcha at which taping was allowed
it should be done so that the kahal can get a
“picture” of the impact.
The question posed to the Minyan should be narrow
and focus solely on b’nai and b’not mitzvah.
The question posed to the Minyan should be
broader and more philosophical.
Reasoning from past experience with contentious
issues, it might be possible to pose a tiered
question, going from the more philosophical to the
more narrow.
Vote: Following discussion of specific wording
for a question that could be posed to the Minyan for a
vote on this issue, a formulation was offered limiting
the taping question only to bar or bat mitzvah
celebrations and a vote on that formulation was called.
The wording of the proposed question was: “Should the
Library Minyan allow videotaping on Shabbat and Yom Tov
of b’nai and b’not mitzvah as long as the videotaping is
within halachic guidelines?” The majority of the members
present voted “no” and this proposed formulation was
rejected. An alternative motion was adopted to form a
small team to develop appropriate wording for the
question, along with a brief background statement and
major pro and con perspectives. Herschel Elkins, Janet
Halbert, and Steve Spronz agreed to work with Bob Braun
on this drafting team.
Simcha guidelines
Background: As part of the Minyan’s effort to be
a welcoming community, the Ritual Committee agreed over
the summer to prepare a set of guidelines to assist
families celebrating a bar or bat mitzvah in the Minyan.
Avi Havivi and Sandra Braun drafted the guidelines. The
Ritual Committee reviewed this draft and, with a number
of changes, unanimously adopted the guidelines. The
guidelines will be provided to families when they
schedule their simcha at the Minyan.
Ritual Committee’s recommendation: Since the
guidelines are limited to implementing existing
policies, the committee believes that no further action
by the general membership is required. Copies of the
guidelines will be posted on the web site and made
available in hard copy to interested Minyan members.
General discussion: There was no discussion of
this issue.
Decorum in the Minyan
Background: Several Minyan members had complained
about a lack of decorum during services and asked the
Ritual Committee to address this issue. After
discussion, a consensus was reached that existing
policies adequately cover this issue but that all
members are encouraged to remind their friends of the
goal of creating a prayer-friendly environment.
Ritual Committee’s recommendation: No further
action need be taken.
General discussion: There was no discussion of
this issue.
Additional Issues
Dale Bodenstein provided a report on the Minyan’s finances.
As of June 30, 2002, the Minyan had a balance of $4,981.86.
Between June 30, 2002 and November 5, 2003 the Minyan received
$4,272.66 from donations and interest. The Minyan spent
$4,076.73 during the same period, mostly on kiddushes, tributes,
and new megillot. The current Minyan balance is $5,177.79. A
written financial report is available to all Minyan members.
Dale also asked that all donations, including Simchat Torah
pledges, be mailed to her directly. Her address is 1121 South
Spalding Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90019.
As the hour was getting late, the remaining agenda items (new
welcoming initiatives and an update on the Library Minyan home
page) were postponed for future discussion. Two additional
issues were raised for future discussion. One was whether some
of the Minyan funds currently available could be used to further
enhance the kiddush experience. Mitch Miller agreed to take the
lead in exploring potential ways for doing this. The other issue
was what, for purposes of sponsoring a simcha or event in the
Minyan, constitutes Minyan “membership.”
The meeting was adjourned at 12:10 p.m.
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